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Poster: GatorGuy Date: Jul 15, 2013 5:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

Tapes have never surfaced from the brief east coast tour to promote the Anthem of the Sun but the 1968 Mystery Tapes are really close to the sound we heard in April at Thee Image, Miami Beach. Does anyone have information on whether tapes from this tour might exist? I received an email years ago from Owlsly that he did not make that tour so I wonder if maybe the taping equipment didn't travel with them for such a short tour. Here are the dates/venues.
April 19, 20, 21 Thee Image, Miami Beach, FL
April 26, 27, 28 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA
May 3 Low Library Plaza, NY, NY
May 5 Central Park, NY, NY
May 11 The Dome, Virginia Beach, VA

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jul 15, 2013 6:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

Owlsly invented email if i remember correctly...

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jul 15, 2013 6:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

Wow GatorGuy, haven't heard from you in 6 years!
http://archive.org/post/130843/april-1968

There are a few SBD snippets from the May/June '68 period - three excerpts on the "Mystery Reels" set, and a partial SBD from 6/14/68 that was released. My guess is these are mostly recordings from the Carousel in SF, but it's anybody's guess. (At the time Owsley was the Carousel soundman, til in June '68 the Dead asked him to join their crew again.)
Otherwise the closest we can get to the Dead's mid-'68 sound are the 5/18 & 6/14 AUDs. Actually, the matrix tapes the Dead made of the Carousel run on March 29-31 '68 should be very close to what you heard at Thee Image, being just 3 weeks earlier.

Not as good as tapes, but here are a couple contemporary accounts of their shows - the Love-In in Greynolds Park, Miami:
http://deadsources.blogspot.com/2013/06/april-14-1968-greynolds-park-miami.html
And some of the New York shows -
http://deadsources.blogspot.com/2012/02/may-4-9-1968-new-york.html

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Poster: GatorGuy Date: Jul 15, 2013 7:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

Thanks for the additional info. I think the Greynolds Park report is from the Miami Herald. A week or so later we made a trek there but nothing was going on and I don't believe it ever revived to become a consistent place to be. South Fl was certainly no Cal or hotbed of "hippiedom." At the time we were a poor man's imitation of Cal.

I have the Matrix shows and they have a familiar sound although - amateur that I am - I think Jerry was really on it the night we went. Incredibly quick and constant with very few "resting spots" during his licks. It was a incredible non-stop flow that I never forgot. Not just fast but moving. Thee Image as an emptied out bowling alley with a low temporary stage so the acoustics were terrible and Pig Pen and Weir were buried in the noise as well as most of the vocals. It was the first (and only) time I heard them so I have a hard time trying to recall the set lists. I had no grid for what I was seeing/hearing. In general the first set was a lot of the first album and the second set was Anthem of the Sun but I am almost certain there was a version of Dark Star thrown in because I distinctly recall the interlude and some of the unique percussion. It was a small crowd so I haven't found anyone else who attended the Miami shows other than my cousin who was with me.

Thanks again. Fun trying to find some scraps of info. There is probably more info out there that will hopefully surface.

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Poster: GatorGuy Date: Jul 16, 2013 8:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

I just relistened to the Carousel Dark Star and I am finally convinced Dark Star was part of the second set. I have always distinctly remembered the "scraper" thinging and gong from their performance and Dark Star is the only possibilty. But I was always doubtful because I did not recall anything as "moody' as Dark Star from that night. However, I also just listened to the 3-16-1968 Carousel Dark Star and it is a much faster tempo with a different feel to it. If they played Dark Star with the faster tempo in Miami that would explain why it did not stand out from the rest of the set. The whole second set was played at an incredible pace - much like The Eleven form the 3-30-68 Carousel. I have been puzzling over these few details I remember for a long time trying to sort fact from confused memory and it is great to come to few conclusions. Thanks for your help. It must be really great having tapes from shows that a person attended. Especially from the early seminal days when things (for all of us) were still forming.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Jul 18, 2013 12:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: happy birthday SUN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthem_of_the_Sun

Released
July 18, 1968

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Poster: corry Date: Jul 15, 2013 6:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

There were other shows on this tour. The actual itinerary looked like this

April 12,13,14 Thee Image, Miami, FL
April 14 Graynolds Park, Miami, FL (afternoon free show)
April 19,20,21 Thee Image, Miami, FL
April 26,27,28 Electric Factory, Philadelphis, PA
May 3 Low Library Plaza, New York, NY
May 4, Gym, SUNY Stony Brook, NY
May 5, Central Park, New York, NY
May 7,8,9 Electric Circus, New York, NY (two shows each night)
May 11, The Dome, Virginia Beach

Since the Dead were trying to mix Anthem at Criteria Studios in Miami, there's a remote chance that they borrowed some equipment and recorded live in Miami, but I suspect that is just wishful thinking (not to say I can't hope).

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Poster: GatorGuy Date: Jul 15, 2013 6:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

Thanks. I used the dates posted on Dead.net and was not aware of the first weekend's shows at Thee Image but that makes sense because I knew of the Greynolds Park free show which would fit in well between the two weekends. Now I have to figure out if we attended Friday April 12, or 19.

Has anyone done a careful analysis of the 1968 Mystery Tapes to estimate where they fit into their evolution? Their music continued to change and it would seem possible for a musical wizard to do an "archaeological" study of where they fit. Either way, I play them and it takes me back to April, 1968 which is more than good enough. We were just dumb high school kids but I wish we had realized how approachable they were and had spent a few moments talking to them. There was no "back stage" at Thee Image so they just hung around in between sets. Thanks again.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jul 15, 2013 7:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

I posted a little review of that set back in 2009 that dates the segments as much as possible:
http://archive.org/details/gd68-xx-xx.sbd.vernon.9426.sbeok.shnf

I also did an extended analysis of where these tapes fit into their musical evolution; see the "Spring/Summer 1968" section in this essay:
http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2013/01/early-dead-medleys.html

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Poster: GatorGuy Date: Jul 15, 2013 8:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

Thanks. I saw your archive posting last night and am looking forward to your blog.

I forgot to mention previously that the one song I am sure they played was Alligator because there were literally alligators across the street from our house so that song stuck in memory. And of course the drums stood out on Alligator. It has become my unofficial theme song.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jul 16, 2013 9:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

This was such a dynamic period. I saw the May 3 gig, and when I found out the rest of the schedule, became a confirmed deadhead and saw the rest of the shows in NY. The jamming is what lured me in. Of note--footnote--to historians: The Electric Circus had an unofficial policy of letting people in free if they were barefoot. Sort of a hip statement. We found a spot under a stoop where we would hide ours--until one night after a Hendrix show they were gone. Well worth the loss of a cheap pair of sneakers, however. Of other note is the amazing difference in crowd size in Central Park between the '68 and '69 shows--at least a tenfold increase.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Jul 16, 2013 11:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

The Electric Circus is the place where I saw Hendrix playing once in '67 or '68. Several of us punks from NJ went into Greenwich Village that night and wound up going there. I was sixteen in '68. I can't remember the place or what year it was. It would have been The Electric Circus. Thanks for the footnote and the heads-up. I don't remember much about this, I wasn't a hippie yet, nor was I a Deadhead yet. I do remember a few years later I mentioned this a couple of times to friends.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jul 16, 2013 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anthem of the Sun Tour - East Coast

A lot of these places were small clubs, and bands like the Dead were relatively unknown. "Hippiedom" really broke in NYC in 1968. When I first went to see them in '67, I had no idea what the hell was going on. I just knew that it was rebellious. Walking into a head shop--what the hell was this about? Walking downstairs to the Cafe Au GoGo with the splattered day glo walls--totally alien to me. I didn't even know that was reefer I was smelling. By 1968, I was clued in and downtown almost every weekend for the next 3 years. What a time. Too bad only a few people tried taping--at Coltrane concerts, and a few rock shows. Now everyone whips out their cell phones! Of course, the sound was so loud that the tapes--on cheap recorders--would have distorted to a high degree.